Tuesday, December 17, 2013

We Are That

We are what we think we are
We are as good as we would be
We do what we think we can do
We are the makers of reality

Love is the spirit of our being
Song is the beauty of our heart
Smile is bliss we are gifted with
Tears are our precious touch

We are the secret code of life
We create the God of might
We sense the laws of nature
We make this world come alive

Who would have known the cosmos
Had We not been its seer?
Who would have dared to confess
We are that we are




Bastar Biography

It was the day when the only news was Phailin cyclone, trains cancelled, alarms being announced in the Eastern coastal areas of Bengal, Odisha and Andhra. We were scheduled to leave for Vizag on Oct. 12, the eve of Ashtami and the city being in the path of Phailin our train was obviously cancelled. A quick thinking on my and my husband's part got us the tickets to a nearby state - Chattisgarh, so started our Bastar affairs.

Danteshwari temple @ Dantevada
We were nothing but lucky to have got confirmed ticket on Sambaleshwari Express on the same day of the  journey. The 24-hour journey was mostly dull till we reached the Eastern Ghaats. Along with the rain started the undulating greens of the Ghaats. It was nightfall when we reached Jagdalpur station. The next morning was Dussera. The 10th day of the Durga festival is big day for the natives of Bastar. The region is blessed with the presence of Maa Danteshwari, the deity of the Danteshwari temple which is an auspicious site. In the Durga mythology it is said Devi Durga's teeth fell in the place Dantevada which is about 85 km from Jagdalpur town which was our 3rd day destination. The Danteshwari temple was built there in the ancient times. Ruins of the ancient temple have been well preserved in the shell of a new temple by the help of the current BJP state government. However,during the Dussera festival the idol of Danteshwari Devi is brought to the temple at jagdalpur which is located within the premise of the royal palace of Bastar. Various local rituals and Adivaasi dance forms are performed throughout the day. 





Borra Cave
On our 4th day we set out for Araku Valley. I heard this name first when I was in 7th grade from my classmate. It did capture my imagination especially the tunnels and the dolomite-limestone cave. After all these years I was heart broken to have visited the place. The highly commercialized Borra cave seems like an artificially constructed cave in some amusement park. Despite its vast size, the natural beauty of the place have been hunted down severely over the years to attract the tourists and make the site easily accessible to them. My experiences with the visits to Patal Bhubaneshwar cave at Kumaon and Mahakal cave at North Bengal-Bhutan were far more satisfying. Another disappointment was Araku Valley. Neither the Haritha Valley Resort nor the town could capture my thoughts for their being worse than average. The only good note was the stay at Ananthagiri hill. With the coffee
@ Ananthagiri Haritha Resort
garden and waterfalls around the place, the place offers sheer beauty in its calm landscape and localites close to nature. The small cottages in the resort was a good stay along with tribal Andhra dance around the bonfire in the evening. If one is eager to capture a glimpse of this place be ready with your own conveyance or contact:      The other relief was the cave tunnels. However, after being in narrow gauge route from Kalka to Simla this was not a surprise.








Tirotgarh 
Chitrakot
We returned to Jagdalpur after 2 days. On the 7th day we planned our trip 
for the famous waterfalls of Bastar - Chitrakot and Tirotgarh. If one would like to see natural art made by rushing water, Tirotgarh is the place. Located in the middle of Bastar jungle the place is ornamented with various tall rock formations and greenery. The visitors are greeted by animated monkeys all over the place. This small waterfall can keep a visitor captivated for several hours. But we had to move to our next destination and that was Chitrakot. Known for its width it is also called the Niagra of India. During the 
monsoons, it is a difficult task to click the entire waterfall in one frame. Even in autumn it was singing its glory and welcomed us with a light rainbow crowning its glory. The stay at the Chattisgarh Tourism cottage was simply elegant. The view of the waterfall from the huge glass window of the room kept us glued to it every moment we went inside the cottage. Bidding farewell to Chitrakot was somber as the place offered us the paradisiacal peace and beauty. On a melancholy note we left for Jagdalpur. 

Back in the town, we had a delightful visit to the local handicraft market of bell metal and wrought iron. The artforms now decorate our living rooms leaving us with gleaming memories of Bastar.

For sure there will be more visit to that alluring region, may be it is infested with Maoists, not very developed as tourist attraction, but that is the beauty of Bastar, its raw non-fancied habitat calling out to the lovers of nature to its cradle.



Banishing the Divine Stick of Fear of Action: Karma & Original Sin

“Karma creates all, like an artist, karma composes, like a dancer.” ~The Buddha (Saddharmapundarika Sutra)

According to the karma of past actions, one's destiny unfolds , even though everyone wants to be so lucky.  ~Sri Guru Granth Sahib

Karma is an integral part of the Vedic culture and so prominent that any religion which has evolved in the land of Bharat has circled around it. The Vedic scriptures which consists of Samhitas (prayers), Brahmanas (rituals) and Aranyakas (meditation) are together termed as Karma Kanda. This section of the Vedas give the guidance for Pravritti Marga or the path of progressive action to lead human life.

Born in an Indian family be it Hindu, Buddhist, Jain or Sikh we are always taught we reap the fruits of our karma be in this life or the next. So the life conditions we are into are not only because of our actions in this life but those of our past lives which are Prarabda Karma i.e. past accumulated actions due to be converted as fate in current life. People are told they would take inferior birth or suffer if they do not perform duly what is said in Karma Kanda vs. the sufferings of current birth are also accredited to Karma phala or actions of past life.

Now if we think, this fear of Karma is restricted within the Indian sub-continent, it will only be an underestimation. The idea has given itself dynamic faces and appeared in various theologies such as Judaism. The concept of 'original sin' is a weak contender of the concept of Karma phala which rendered due to the sin of Adam and Eve human kind should suffer, so they must surrender to Yah-weh and follow the 'ten commandments' duly.

While drafting the 'action items' (read Karma Kanda and Ten Commandments), the religions accrued the burden of fear of non-performance and human evils springing out of such non-conformity. One such was fear of action. This is evident in Arjuna's dilemma before the beginning of the Kurukshetra war, the exploitation of the Jews by the Rabbis and our confusions regarding the way of our lives.  However, this fear of action was banished by two great men who cannot be called historical but who have profound influence in humanity - Krishna and Christ.

On one hand, where Krishna tells Arjuna to abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender to him and he shall deliver Arjuna from all sinful reactions, asking the latter not to fear (BG 18.66); On the other hand, Christ calls out to his followers that he is the door and will save any man who puts his faith in Christ (NT John 10.9). Thus these two deities have cast away the fear of action and promised salvation of the soul. Whether they really make a valid offer is a matter of eternal debate but the fact cannot be denied that people do get inspiration, confidence and  peace from these words.

Of course it is not necessary to believe in any of the aforesaid ideologies and theologies and one may lead a satisfactory life by adapting to the circumstances and even conquering them with self-belief. This self-belief is nothing but faith in this on the self while in above cases on rules of the religions and deities. So let us not fear the unavoidable and look for ways how to realize better of the best from the life.

Om Tat Sat 



Friday, December 6, 2013

The Promise of Deliverance

Deliverance in Bhagavad Gita (BG 18.66)

Bhagawan Uvacha:
ahaḿ tvāḿ sarva-pāpebhyo

Krishna told Arjun (the one who represented the world): Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear. 

Deliverance in NT

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
2 Timothy 3:15 - And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

It seems both Krishna and Jesus tried to console and comfort the world not to worry about the sins. Both wanted us to act fearlessly. What about righteousness? It is assumed one who has faith in any form of the Supreme Lord cannot commit a sin. An assumption though for so-called believers of faith have been committing unforgivable crime against mankind through the ages. 

Coming back to the original point, the verses clearly show all what is expected from us to be free in our mind and fearless. We are infinite but our inferior perception of ourselves and fear bound us. The deities have tried to resolve this problem by offering salvation in lieu of faith. Nobody would know whether deliverance was actually done or the one with faith can walk on water, but for sure that one can win the battle of life.

But despite all these facts, considering the scenario of the understanding of common men and the exploitation by clerics, wouldn't it been better had the deities talked of believing in the self rather than an external deity? Their preaching about believing in them as the supreme god gave rise to religions and thereby religious conflicts. Of course, it was not just due to the two of them, every religion talks of this supremacy and give rise to nothing but conflict.


Another point to be considered, the word of god should be beyond the scope of time i.e. eternal. It cannot be referred to any particular context. Unfortunately most of the scriptures are highly contextual and localized especially with Semitic religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Hence their effectiveness was applicable only during that relevant time and location when and where it was delivered.


In today's world, we have been vested with education for the mass and free of speech, most important education has given us freedom of thought. It is not just our choice but our duty to make use of these privileges and make a better world out of it. Let the God in all of us act through us and deliver us to goodness. 



Om Tat Sat

In Pursuit of Truth

The Finite exists in the Infinite while the Infinite consciousness is realised in the Finite



Who has seen Infinity?
Who has dreamt of it?
Who has told its tale?
Who has unveiled it?

It is an experience says the wise
It is the causation of cosmic life
Blissful consciousness which exists
It is the one who gave way to light

What are all divine allegory?
Are we random or divine artistry?
Man’s idea of eternal architect
Is it true or an aureate fancy?

Religion, Philosophy, Science, History
Some cast laws some pursue inquiry
Dictates, debates, notions of same theory
For ages it has been man’s story

Thoughts lost in the trail of creation
The mind fails to look inside
The one who sings the antiphon
The one who is called the ‘I’








Wednesday, October 23, 2013

Ten Commandments of Indian Secularism


  1. Thou shall not condemn Muslims or Christians even if they oppress Hindus
  2. Thou shall criticize Hindus forever if they retaliate against terrible communal and political atrocities 
  3. Thou shall promote Christian and Muslim brotherhood even though they act against rural Hindus
  4. Thou shall have faith on secularist politicians whose chief objective is to spread communal violence
  5. Thou shall glorify beef eating 
  6. Thou shall condemn Hindu rituals and customs as blind faith
  7. Thou shall let the people, nation and development be nuliified for minority appeasement
  8. Thou shall forget corruption and forgive corrupt politicians but not empower Hindu nationalists
  9. Thou shall consider Hindu root as crude but world culture as salvation
  10. Thou shall reject Hindu ideas of God and religion but respect Islam and Christianity which are God-centric religions

Only if you follow these ten commandments you will be a Indian secular. 

CV of Indian Secular
Objective: Enemy of Hinduism
Core Competence: Talking and acting nuisance against Hinduism
Internship: Rendezvous with Christianity, Islam, Communism
Professional Experience: Big Talks without understanding politics and secularism or a corrupt politician
Personal Details: Foolish, dumb, corrupt, selfish
Extra-curricular Activities: Bad-mouthing Hinduism and Nationalists





Tuesday, October 1, 2013

Academic intelligence does not ensure common sense or presence of mind. These need to be practiced by the self with an open mind and riddance of superiority complex.

Friday, September 27, 2013

We have the story of evolution of cavemen to astronauts and still we read fictions.

Thursday, September 26, 2013

Once upon a time the word telephone was a verb
Despite the fact of evolution of cavemen to astronauts we read fictions. LoL

Wednesday, September 18, 2013

Days of Gold

Images of school life unfold

Yesteryears' stories told

Not of a time just old

But memories from days of gold



Friday, September 6, 2013

Yes and No are strong words. Before using them one need to know the art of using them and beware of the timing of using them
Age is not defined by birth certificate but by behavior

Wednesday, September 4, 2013

Ishq

एई इश्क बिन तेरे न जी पाए हम
मुद्दतो गुज़ार दी तेरे  इंतज़ार में हम
आखिर जब मिले किस्मत से, तोह आप फरमाए
किसी और को 'हम दिल दे चुके सनम'

एई इश्क तेरे वास्ते जीना छोर चुके हम
जिस्म जिंदा है पर रूह खो चुके है हम
नाकाम इश्क से बिखरा हुआ है दिल
फिर भी दुआ है के आप आबाद रहो जानम

Tuesday, September 3, 2013

Noble Heart

We are born with no thought
We are born with no memory
We are born only with a noble heart
Which paints life's colorful scenery

When bound in the book of rules
When in life there seems no room
When feelings become tearful
The noble heart makes things cool

When cunning thoughts blow our mind
When stressed life makes happiness bind
When events take a toll of life
The noble heart makes one survive

When joy of living is in full flow
When gains free us from painful shadows
When calm prevails despite all sorrow
The noble heart carves hopes for tomorrow

So keep the heart as a noble home
Let life bring in the known & the unknown
Eternal peace let there be alone
And poetry sing the song of the soul's throne


Life is good if we take it as good...it is better if we are happy...but it is best when we feel we are at peace

Tuesday, June 25, 2013

Monday, June 24, 2013

Step Sisters - Twin City of Mysore and Bangalore

It was a recent visit to Bangalore, the Silicon Valley of India. The chilling wind declared the city is way far different from the other metro cities which I have visited. The Mecca of Indian IT industry was a complete dazzle with offices of giant blue chip corporations, endless variety of eateries, shopping malls and an entertaining night life. Yes it is indeed thrilling for youngsters. But to a matured traveler, it seemed to be a city without a heart, a city without heritage. It was suffocating for a traveler who wants to know the story of the land. This was with the exception of the Pensinsular Gneiss at Lalbagh, granitic rock formation 3000 million years old - among the oldest rocks of the earth. There was another delightful treat . . . the masala mango, eat it raw, it is sour with red chilli and salt and enjoy your time in the Garden city.

But it was not 'the end', the story was yet untold. It takes another 140 km to the elder twin of Bangalore which held the power to awestruck an eager traveler - the City of Mysore. Contrary to Bangalore, the city has a rich heritage of art, architecture, ancient, medieval and modern history. The name Mysore hailed from the ancient name Mahisuru. According to Hindu mythology, the area was ruled by the demon Mahishasuru. The demon was killed by the Goddess Chamundeshwari, whose temple is situated atop the Chamundi Hills.

The Mysore Kingdom initially served as a vassal state of the Vijayanagara Empire. With the decline of the Vijayanagara Empire in 1565, the Mysore Kingdom became a sovereign state. Srirangapatna was the capital of the kingdom from 1610. The kingdom was ruled by the Wodeyar dynasty who contributed significantly to the cultural growth of the city. Till date Mysore palace remains one of the most breath taking palatial architectures in the world with extensive work of gold plating, Burma teak wood and Ivory. Under brief rule of Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan in the latter half of the 18th century the kingdom came into conflict with the Marathas, British and Golconda Kingdom which led to the Anglo Mysore wars. post wars the former Wodeyar dynasty was reinstated by the British and Mysore kingdom was converted to a princely state under the British crown. However, by then the city of Mysore underwent considerable loss as Tipu Sultan demolished parts of Mysore to remove legacies of the Wodeyar dynasty. After a brief stint with Bangalore serving as the administrative centre for the state from 1831, the city regained its status as state capital in 1881 and remained so till 1947.

Sunday, June 2, 2013

Happy Tale

Mild greeting and few words sprang the tale
Sweet liking fostered in hills and vale
As hearts made way for love to dwell
Life called it time for wedding bell

On July 14, to bear joyous testimonial
You are cordially invited, to the holy matrimonial
Of bride Shreyoshi with groom Ujjal
With your happy presence, grace the ceremonial

Tuesday, April 23, 2013

Against the notion of evil


"Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light." ~ Albert Einstein
 
Argument 1: How can God be Almighty, omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient and still be absent so as to give space to evil?

Bhagavad Gita answers:


Chapter 4 Verse 11

ye yathā māḿ prapadyante, tāḿs tathaiva bhajāmy aham, mama vartmānuvartante, manuṣyāḥ pārtha sarvaśaḥ

As all surrender unto Me, I reward them accordingly. Everyone follows My path in all respects, O son of Pṛthā.

So even a man following evil path is following the path of Brahman, as everything is in Brahman and nothing is beyond It. This includes evil too.

Chapter 7 Verse 14 defines everything made of 3 gunas satwa, rajas, tamas and evil is more of tamas and less of satwa. But even this tamas is in Brahman.
daivī hy eṣā guṇa-mayī, mama māyā duratyayā, mām eva ye prapadyante, māyām etāḿ taranti te
This divine energy of Mine, consisting of the three modes of material nature, is difficult to overcome. But those who have surrendered unto Me can easily cross beyond it.

This separation of evil from Semitic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) have given rise to fictitious concept of Satan or Devil and made the world divisive. They developed the idea of sin and forgiveness to have control over religion.

On the contrary Sanatan Dharma, spreads a unified concept of Brahman which is all inclusive. We also have the concept of virtue and vice but based on Karma theory. Also the bliss of Brahman is ever-flowing without a break and anyone can receive it, anyone. This frees us from the clutches of god-men and so-called religious representatives, gurus, rabbis, pastors, priests and mullahs.

http://themythicalphoenix.blogspot.in/2013/03/truth-of-absolute.html

Monday, April 22, 2013

We talk about growth in most aspects of life . . . we hardly think in terms of evolution . . . think of what would would happen if a child grows in height and age but doesn't evolve with age? Let us grow in a more integrated way, let us Evolve
Ideas are subject to biases and that's why most idea (read as revelations) oriented religions suffer from high level of bias.

Dialog on Religion

Shreyoshi Ghosh · 105 followers
Saturday at 3:04pm ·
Religion has only function in life.........either it makes a person weak or it makes the person terrorist - (Kanjibhai, Oh My God movie)
  • Abhi Gupta Don't agree..
  • Sangram Banerjee True Sense of religion converts an animal to human and convert a human to godness.....Sri Sri Ramakrishna
  • Amitava Bhattacharya Religion helps to develop a big business also, BABA business
  • Utpal Chakrabarty Religion is an innate nature of men - be it ancestor worship or moral laws - it is religion which makes men do that.

    A tree is known by the best fruit it produces - not by the rotten one.
  • Pritish Mukherjee Religion produced the word 'Secular' and 'Pseudo-secular' selling which is the biggest business in India..... most profitable
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh Utpal Chakrabarty - agreed to what u commented and that just proves my point, that people become so weak due to religion that they need to depend on it to be moral and their willpower goes down the drain, so these spineless religious people lacking willpower are the best fruits...bravo
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh Sangram Banerjee I am not equating religion with Spirituality and Philosophy. Rama Krishna was more a spiritual person than a mere religious leader... don't get confused between these two terms - religion and spirituality, as Kanjibhai in the same movie nicely said where there is God there is no need for religion and where there is religion there is hardly any space for God.
  • Utpal Chakrabarty On the contrary what I said means that religions makes a man strong - from its rudimentary form of ancestor worship to the Vedantic idea that "Thou art That" - all is God.

    A husband loves the wife more if he sees God in her - and vice versa. That is what religion does - it turns the earth into heaven.
  • Ujjal Sengupta Every aspect of life can be used in wrong and right way,e.g: education can make a better citizen or can make a person better terrorist (osama bin laden). So also religion. It is a way of life and every person has the responsibility to make a better religion and not to utilize it in a wrong way. Belief in God is the most important aspect.
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh On the contrary we have seen religion especially Semitic religions turning the earth into hell. What heaven u r referring to.....as for a husband to see 'God' in wife....why do we need to see God in someone as long as we learn to respect other people f...See More
  • Utpal Chakrabarty Because we are God - Thou Art That - Tatwamasi

    You can laugh - you can cry - and you can say all that - but it is only as good as it goes - and it does not go very far.

    And most of those brave ones need God when they have head aches or tooth aches - loses job - of gets a ditch -
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh U r mixing up religion with spirituality UC....FYI God is not described definitely by the Vedas, It says Thou Art That, it does not say what is That even in Nasadiya Sukta which is the agnostic scripture of the Vedas, the idea of God is nullified an...See More
  • Utpal Chakrabarty They are the same - one is the ritual part, the other philosophical - they are one and the same - because both lead to the same end.
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh ur conclusion is totally agnst the scripturues u hv referred in ur previous comments......
  • Utpal Chakrabarty It may seem so to you Shreyoshi Ghosh - but in reality there is no difference - no spiritual person can be irreligious - and no religious person can be non-spiritual. Think carefully - you are an intelligent person - I am sure you will understand
  • Ujjal Sengupta If you snatch religion from a person, the person will make you the religion (or God) - God(Akshyay Kumar) in OMG
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh read Vedas properly UC, it clearly says religion has nothing to do with God or spirituality, m not saying what is seeming to me but what the scriptures say, the same scriptures which u referred to......to be godly or spiritual one need not be religious & ritualistic
  • Utpal Chakrabarty Which Veda says that SG?
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh Rig, Sam, Yajur all three & even Upanishads........Rig even gives us the authority to question existence of God and creation altogether. Read Nasadiya Sukta if u want specific references, its part of Rig Veda
  • Utpal Chakrabarty None of these Vedas say that - read them again - read very carefully this time.
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh the concept of Nastik is largely derived from Nasadiya Suktam of Rig Veda, it is exactly opposite to Purusha Suktam which describes God as a being......as I said our Vedas range from most theistic to most atheistic philosophies, nothing is absolute
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh i do my reading often diligently without the prejudice of religion and wisdom, u may like to do the same as suggested to me
  • Harimohan Pillai This complexity of emotional/rational duel between religion and spirituality is unique to human animals... what about other animals... they seem to be deep in the spiritual bliss of being part of creation, living by instinct, co-existing with other creatures, not complaining or whining... and we humans apparently believe that we are the superior... Ha! Big Joke!
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh very well said Harimohan Pillai humans consider themselves as center of the universe....... who knows the truth
  • Harimohan Pillai 'Man is an insignificant episode of an ephemeral planet in the universe' - Bertrand Russell
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh Vedas are so open with regards to atheism that atheistic philosophies like Samkhya, Mimamsa, Charvaka and Ajivika philosophies have evolved out of 'diligent & sincere study' of the Vedas.........Vedanta which is known to most Indians, is not the only philosophy in India
  • Utpal Chakrabarty Do you read Sanskrit SG? I can't - I can only read the English translation - but just for the record - even religion does not need God -
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh Russell's teapot what's ur say on that HM? I am still unable to find a Vedic argument for this highly atheistic concept
  • Harimohan Pillai Thought has no language I suppose... In whatever language we read, our mind converts into its own 'machine language' (perhaps, a binary... yes,no,yes,no...) and we swirl like a pendulum, between theism and atheism...
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh my knowledge of Sanskrit is very limited, I also read Vedas & Upanishads in English & get them explained by Sanskrit scholars when in doubt.......yes religion as it is today doesnt need God, it needs Godmen LOL...........however, the true meaning of re...See More
  • Harimohan Pillai Russell's teapot, if launched from Chedi's universe, would have cause a storm in it...
  • Utpal Chakrabarty Is Upanishad part of Vedas Shreyoshi Ghosh?
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh no they are not thats why have mentioned them separately, but Nasadiya Suktam is part of Rig Veda - 10th Manadalam
  • Harimohan Pillai We have succumbed our great ancient traditions of 'Shastrarth' by scholars to the Western race of seminars, conferences and paper publications in refereed journals...
  • Utpal Chakrabarty I knew you would say that - Shreyoshi Ghosh - Upanishads are the last part of the Vedas - and they are called Vedanta - and since they were given in person - sitting close by - they are called Upanishad - which means "sitting close"

    That is why I asked you to read them carefully!
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh Vedanta is the philosophy derived from the Vedas, one of the six Vedic philosophies......this is why I said I do my studies diligently
  • Utpal Chakrabarty But Vedanta - the other name of Upanishads - are part of the Vedas - so you should have read the Upanishads when you read the Vedas - right?

    It seems you did not read the Upanishads but you said you read the Vedas - I am confused!
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh I read Upanishads often as its always easy to understand Vedas thru Upanishads, Upanishads are mostly considered as Vedic texts and not Vedas itself, they give perspective views of the Vedic shlokas.
  • Utpal Chakrabarty Sorry - you read Upanishads - but not the Vedas?
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh both vedas for shlokas and references and Upanishads for the inherent meanings and Gita unfortunately in English. What about u, Utpal Chakrabarty ?
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh have u read Chandogya Upanishads which is mostly interpreted as atheistic?
  • Utpal Chakrabarty Hinduism allows for atheism - because we are basically all atheists - we only pretend to be otherwise because we are too scared to call ourselves atheists.

    Had we not been atheists - I would not be writing this post - because "he who knows Bramhan becomes Bramhan"
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh there u go UC, this is exactly I was talking abt, evn while running late for a train I pray God pls let me reach on time...........but I dont know to whom m praying, how can I believe something which I dont know so I am agnostic in contrast to an atheist, even my FB religious states claims it - Nasadiya Suktam the agnostic philosophy of Vedas........all those who say they believe in religion are mere liars, because neither they have any belief in god nor they know what religion (Dharma) means
  • Harimohan Pillai This is Shastrarth... Utpal Chakrabarty and Shreyoshi Ghosh.... I am enjoying this!
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh Dharma derived from Dhri dhaatu in Sanskrit meaning ‘to hold’, ‘to bear’, ‘to carry’ or ‘to support’. That which holds together or supports is dharma. In this sense dharma encompasses all ethical, moral, social and other values or principles, code of conduct and behavior which contribute to the well-being, sustenance and harmonious functioning of individuals, societies and nations and which prevent their disintegration. This is the meaning of Dharma or the mutilated English derivative Religion but instead we have made a monkey out of it.
  • Shreyoshi Ghosh In Sanskrit, there is no word which is the exact equivalent of ‘religion’. The word ‘religion’ connotes a set of dogmas and beliefs, a code of conduct, a Founder, a Sacred Book and a Church or similar institution. Such a concept of Institutionalized religion is alien to Hindu thought (unless one refers to pervert interpretations of Manu Smriti) . In fact, Hinduism (more properly ‘Sanatana Dharma‘ ) accommodates within its fold people with widely differing beliefs and dogmas.
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    • Utpal Chakrabarty The essence of religion is to know that there is something beyond the senses - transcendental - and become spiritual.

      In the final analysis - one does not pray to anyone else - but to oneself. Rama performed Durga puja to kill Ravana - who did He worship? He worshipped Himself - the shakti aspect of His being.
    • Shreyoshi Ghosh on the contrary the so-called religion as we know robs a person of spirituality........self or something else who knows, there is nobody to know, the doll of salt dissolves in salt ocean when it tries to know what is salt
    • Utpal Chakrabarty That is not our religion -
    • Shreyoshi Ghosh true but it has become so with most Indians unfortunately